The demiurge of our making: Inevitability of The Angel

My one big recent theory is that The Angel will be the final boss / segue into the ending of the game. It is inevitable.

This Theory runs in a few parts and assumes a few things

The Tinkerbell effect and the Disneyland theme park: Darkners run on a belief system.

This assumption borrows on the assumption that Darkners come from objects in the vicinity of a dark fountain when a dark world is made. Objects is being loosely defined, as Spamton is spam and not a physical object, but that object means something that isn’t typically alive in the way we would consider it alive.

So when a dark fountain is made, the world is likely directed by the person making it, and the objects coming to life are somewhat directed in a similar if unintended manner.

I hate to spoil In Stars and time, but I think it is functionally like how wishcraft works in that game.

A somewhat better and a bit more familiar and direct comparison that doesn't hinge on spoiling other games is the trope Clap Your Hands If You Believe.

Similarly, I think it’s fair to point out that really the crux of it is suspension of disbelief. And that if that fails, it starts affecting the Darkners.

I really suspect that the underlying thing with Darkners turning to stone is that it’s like Disney park costume performers being in the wrong place. Hence why you don’t see that sort of thing in real life practice.

Peter Pan being in the fun fantasy area makes sense. Peter Pan at space mountain doesn’t make sense, or seeing buzz lightyear on the Indiana jones ride feels out of place. The kind of internal whiplash / dissonance of the wrong person being at the wrong place eventually causes a logic issue. Darkners being in dark worlds deemed incompatible breaks the suspension of disbelief, and as a result the Darkner turns to stone likely as a “world trying to reconcile this” consequence.

This is with the exception of Castle town, which in this analogue is the main street area of Disneyland due to it’s stronger dark fountain. Hypothetically you could see Buzz Lightyear and Snow White both on the main street area of Disneyland. And it’s also why Ralsei isn’t constrained in that in this metaphor Ralsei’s the mickey mouse mascot, Mickey mouse can go all over the park and it makes logical sense. Ralsei can go to any dark fountain because it makes sense.

Kind of wild that you can make a decent argument following this logic that the dark worlds are just theme park areas, but that’s just a little side tangent from the larger theory.

I think The Angel is different from the angel. Let me explain

The Prince of the Dark and The Angel

It’s pretty apparent that home town is a small town and that likely most everyone believes in the local religion of the angel. Or barring that, everyone is at least familiar enough with it regardless of belief.

Even though Ralsei in the Disneyland metaphor is the mickey mouse, Ralsei occupies a weird space in that I think they get around everywhere because Asriel’s known around town as the kid who got out. So of course following that if Ralsei = Asriel, Ralsei gets free passage. They’re not part of a marketing brand though, more kind of based on everyone’s ideas about a real person.

But The Angel also fits as Mickey mouse theme better in that the angel’s got a distinct brand thing and as a visually easy to recognize look, the way the Mickey Mouse logo does.

It is likely that The Angel will pop out of either the Castle Town Dark Fountain, or the last dark fountain.

And assuming that, it’s possible for ideas to contaminate fountains, such that the community dark fountain can be influenced and Darkners made by that fountain can just do things most Darkners can’t, because more people believe it than just a single person.

I think eventually if it doesn't pop out of the communal dark fountain, a dark fountain will be made that will spawn the angel, and that’s inevitable. And that everyone believing in the angel will make The Angel.

The angel textually sounds like a demiurge figure.

And if everyone believes it, it’ll pop out of a dark fountain. And everyone believing it has godlike powers, means it will have godlike powers, this boosted by everyone believing it rather than just one person. It will be a nega-lightner type Darkner in that it’ll be so powerful that it could enter the Light World without any issue or consequence (something no Darkner has ever been able to do; going between dark worlds alone seems impossible for most Darkners it’s safe to assume normally a Darkner can’t leave the dark worlds for the light world).

The catch will be that it’s not as consistent as Ralsei. Mostly because with Ralsei, that comes from everyone’s ideas about Asriel being cohesive, and this is generally because hey Asriel’s a real person they could, can, and have interacted with.

The same cannot be said about the angel. And I’d imagine everyone, despite having some similar ideas about the angel, once you get down to brass tacks everyone has different interpretations about it.

So when The Angel appears, it’ll be struggling to reconcile itself because everyone has similar but not cohesive ideas about the angel, and as a result The Angel will try to act upon all of that simultaneously (thus making the angel’s heaven).

That being said it’ll come out with real orange and grey morality because it’ll try it’s best to do everything without understanding it all really, much like in Soma how the WAU took a lot of liberties with keep humans alive == stop death from occuring== it’s okay to keep them in at dying scenarios and put them in robots and make terrible zombies who cannot die because they technically haven't died and aren't / no longer are in a dead state. Hence why the gang must banish The Angel’s Heaven. The angel could be seen as both a giving and merciful thing and a great and powerful terrible being who punishes those who don’t follow the religious tenants.

The Angel will try to act upon it all. It’s likely to say that we / the fun gang do not want The Angel acting upon all of that at once.

I suspect that the Castle Town Dark Fountain will likely be one of the last / the last fountain we’ll have to do something with, and it is a communal fountain built upon everyone’s hopes dreams and beliefs. So much that commonly held ideas by most people will pop out as Darkners rather than stuff that’s solely influenced by a single person / location (ie the spare classroom / the library computer lab). Everyone’s ideas about Asriel made Ralsei pop out.

Everyone’s ideas about the angel, be they good or bad, will make The Angel appear, and no amount of weird routes or strange activities will sway this, if anything either path will still embolden the people enough that it’ll spawn. The fun gang could have non-weird adventures and people will still hope for the angel to appear. The Roaring could happen, and the people will call out to the angel for salvation from the titans, and The Angel will appear.

Kind of like this bit of poetry that I like a lot puts it “…but not fighting it is not an option, The Dragon is still coming! You can hide under your bed, and there will be a Dragon under your bed. You can run for the Hills and The Dragon will be in the Hills,”.

The end of the poem is about you being the dragon. That’s not intentionally part of this theory. Could be a cool theory on it’s own since there’s enough vague things going on in the game right now that one could make an argument for that.

There’s also a small theory floating around about how the angel is “the light inside your soul, the light only you can see”, and this kind of is similar / kind of not. I don’t think us the player is The Angel, but perhaps the two of us come from the same particular point. IDK. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know this is at odds with the big theory of “Noelle will become the angel” because there’s a lot of stuff kind of already pointing towards that in chapter 2, especially with the Christmas angel iconography that she just has.

That being said I’ve always been more of a “hey it’s two cakes” rather than a “this cake is better than that one” person with regards to theories. They’re fun, and until the game chapters come out and confirms or josses them, it’s by all means relatively harmless.

But still, just as the dragon is still coming, I think the game is narratively railroaded such that no matter what we do, there is nothing we can do to sway the people’s belief in the angel, and The Angel will still appear, roaring or no,

TL:DR dark worlds and darkners run on belief and are kind of like fisher kingdoms for the most part, and darkners can't really leave except to go to the one special one, and that one may be able to make darkners who are disproportionately more powerful than normal and can do things the other ones can't.

Everyone believes in the angel so the darkner known as The Angel has godlike powers and will appear regardless of what anyone does because the whole town believes in it to some extent. As a result kind of like a jrpg our final boss will be against a god.